Mandy has turned her podcast into a living history of Precision Teaching and it’s early practitioners and leaders. She is a wonderful interviewer and provides so much warmth to these podcasts that they are like sitting down and chatting with these various thought leaders. Amazing ideas from Elizabeth Haughton and Clay Starlin, and the strong voice of Michael Maloney, who, along with Eric Haughton mixed Direct Instruction and Precision Teaching to launch the most effective instruction practices, in particular transforming reading.

Great guests from the early days of behavior therapy, Perfect Learning, and other FOR’s. I’ve been in peds for over 20 years and I enjoy hearing the success stories, the challenges from all angles, from what was groundbreaking treatment across various settings from the 1940 (earlier?) onwards. Capturing and sharing these clinician’s, researcher’s, and teacher’s experiences are a good thing. Plus I like a good story and history. I found the podcast through a continuing education session. The presenter, an OT or SLP, had a tool for taking data that come from something called Perfect Leaning. I’d never heard of it. She had this slick graph to measure behavior. She said to email her and she would send a PDF. That was a few months ago. I still want that graph, PDF, electronic, app, whatever. I searched Perfect Learning in my Apple Pod app and here I am. Perhaps this is common knowledge in the ABA world. I’ll ask a staff at one of the ABA centers I provide OT to see if they have one. I’m not a huge ABA person myself, more a DIRFloortime, Dr. Stanley Greenspan, guy. I may change my mind. We’ll see.

As a current OTD student, and BCBA graduate student, I have a passion for both OT and ABA. I have said for years as an RBT how vital it is for these two fields to collaborate with each other and to use evidence based practice to best support those impacted by autism. I have received so much push back, and to see these two amazing women describe with evidence the positive impact of collaborating with each other makes my heart so happy. Their research is evidence based, and they demonstrate the utmost of professionalism to each others field. This is by far my new favorite podcast!